Curse

Orange Milk · Sep 25, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Something always slips by, partialy due to the almost constant LR. Then there are Monsters that target casters or me overextending to get to the Healer in the Mob, well I guess I don't really overextend, I just pull the H/H further into battle.

Plus we all know how much H/H love to stand in AoE

elk · Sep 25, 2008, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by G E A R S

i see only like one person used barrage as an elite is bha better for hm? also what about trapping or beastmaster in hm?

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

You could attempt Barrage + Concussion. Daze is a devastating condition to put on a caster, BHA and Concussion Shot can both apply it but with BHA it is far easier.

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

In HM there becomes an increased need of shutdown of some sort or else your going to find yourself wiping quite often. While it may be possible to splinter barrage your way through NM quite easily, you'll find that being able to lock down a 400 damage dealing boss in HM to be much more damaging in an indirect way.

As everyone else has already suggested:

BHA, Distracting Shot, Savage Shot, Epidemic, Volley, PvE Skills/Optional.

Both Amy and Dust are right here - BHA is the easier option but vanquishing can be quite dull/ boring and I'm always looking to keep my interest and have some sort of challange while doing it.

Amy hit it though with Concussion shot - still want to try and keep Dazed involved as much as you can but it just means that you have to actually interrupt/ apply it.

I've been running the following and with good success:

concussion shot
savage shot
prepared shot
read the winds (or expert's focus)
"you move like a dwarf"
"finish him"
drunken master
Optional - i.e. epedimic/ rez etc.

You can basically single out problem targets that your sabway isn't dealing with. If you're having issues with applying the dazed, use your "move like a dwarf" to knock down the target. AI generally casts as soon as it stands up so anticipate the shot (Yes I recognize not all targets in PvE can be knocked down but its worth while to note this). That and BHA has a 15sec recharge and clumping is important for epedimic to work. Concussion shot is a 5sec recharge and can basically be spammed with prepared shot. That and why not run as expensive a bar you can muster with prepared shot - good fun.

elk

Luminarus · Sep 26, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

I dont thoink you can spam all of those skills with prepared shot... i use a prepared shot build, and I just have the energy to spam ymla & finish him on recharge, (assuming I also use savage/distracting.)

Conc Shot is good when it can be spammed. I wouldnt use it with barrage though because u need alot of emanagement devoted to conc.

BoondockSaint · Sep 26, 2008, 05:46 AM // 05:46

BHA /epidemic is a great build with sabway but I found it a bit boring.

Here is what I started to use for some 1 man spiking abality, it works very well especially against groups that have 2 healers. I dont even have max asuran or Luxon/kurzick titles.

[Expert's Dexterity]
[Sloth Hunter's Shot]
[triple shot]
[read the wind]
[body shot]
[Asuran Scan]
[I Am The Strongest]
optional I usually have [leech signet]

If you have a partner with [finish him] it almost a garateed kill. Have the necro bring [weaken armor] so that body shot can maintain your energy. I have vanquished elona and most of tyria with this build and its more fun the the BRA build. Why daze when you can kill right away.

elk · Sep 26, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

I dont thoink you can spam all of those skills with prepared shot... i use a prepared shot build, and I just have the energy to spam ymla & finish him on recharge, (assuming I also use savage/distracting.)

Conc Shot is good when it can be spammed. I wouldnt use it with barrage though because u need alot of emanagement devoted to conc.

I guess I should clarify "spam" as you are correct if all the skills were being spammed (there would be a net energy loss if everything was being used on recharge). Now if we're just looking at Concussion shot alone, cycle time on is 5sec and Prepared shot is 6secs. Depending on your expertise and marksman attributes, you can basically wash the cost of the skill being used.

Having said that, yes you can dig yourself a hole with this bar (especially considering two are shouts and can be used in conjunction with skills) but prepared shot makes it quite easy to get out of any energy troubles (we are talking PvE here). Just keep in mind that the prep is extremely cheap, the stance lasts rediculously long at a low spec, "Finish him" is conditional to the characters hp to work so there's 2 attacks and 1 shout to micro based on prepared shot (and what you're actually doing/ facing).

elk